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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

During the Guitar Solo part Im very much welcomed Friedice or whoever has the proper chords and tablature sheets for it. And not forgetting the notes must be for beginners, not the whole classical symbols all that. Just simple notes will be fine thank you. please send it to my email... Embarassed

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chords to the song:

Am - E - Am -E
Dm - Bb - Am - F - Bm7b5 - E7
Am - Dm - E7 - Am - F - E7 - Am .........


Sry but I am not too comfortable with gtr tablature and a note for note transcription of the gtr solo in music notation would be too time consuming. The gtr solo is built entirely on the Am melodic scale and the Am arpeggio. You wont go far wrong if you run through the Am melodic scale during the solo part.

Am melodic scale: A - B -C -D - E - F - G# - A

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmm?? Oh well, maybe I should ask for any good place to buy pop songs music sheet books. Question Anyway, thanks.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 12:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you mean sheet music for Western songs, they are easily available especially for hit songs. As the market is much smaller for Chinese songs it is rather more difficult especially so for obscure songs. I am of course speaking of sources for Western songs sheet music. Your best bet is the music publishers based in HK but unless you can read Chinese I fear your search may be futile.

Way back when there used to be 2 songbook compilations (they got hold of the western hit songsheets-sort of pirate publications!) coming out of HK called OK Hit Songs and Hit Parade.

"Elvis Presley, Paul Anka, Neil Sedaka, Ricky Nelson, Connie Francis etc They were the idols of teenage schoolboys and schoolgirls. The Chinese radio stations would broadcast a lot of English pop songs besides the Cantonese, Mandarin and Chinese opera songs. Hong Kong printed English pop hits lyrics books which sold like hotcakes. People would just hold the songbooks in their hands and follow the lyrics. They sang the songs in their houses without any music accompaniment. The earliest one was called OK Hit Songs.

In the 60s, another one called Hit Parade entered the market. With better quality printing and guitar chords of the songs, soon it outsold OK Hit Songs. The young pupils who just learnt how to play guitar treated it like treasure. The Beatles had further popularized the impact of English songs to the youngsters. Even though the older people dubbed these "Yeah Yeah sound Beatles" as Four Crazy Guys, but the young people just couldn't care less."

Unfortunately the publications are now defunct.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Saw this one on youtube. Altho it was played by Electric Guitar and sound weird but still it's a pretty fun solo to play if you know it.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 9:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pencapchew wrote:
Saw this one on youtube. Altho it was played by Electric Guitar and sound weird but still it's a pretty fun solo to play if you know it.

Sry, I beg to differ. It makes no difference whether the solo is played on electric or acoustic guitar. A good guitar solo would stand on its own even if you played it on a recorder!

Although there may be nothing wrong with this solo on a technical level, ie all the right notes of the scale and no issues of incongruency with the harmonic structure, this solo is uninspiring, lacking in 'feel', 'soul', passion, fire.... an insipid solo. It sounds like a fingering exercise off the page of a primer on how-to-play guitar.

note: I have difficulties with understanding 'Chinese' music. Western music (popular music) follows certain music rules based on the 7 note scale. Chinese music, as typified by the song in question, emphasizes the 5 note or pentatonic scale. Lots of popular Chinese songs these days (esp the tunes pilfered from the Japanese pop scene) follows the 7 note scale as well as emphasizing the II - V7 harmonic progression that is the hallmark of Western pop music. If you listen to old Chinese songs prior to the 50's you can hear the emphasis on the pentatonic scale. This particular song in question now, although not emphasizing the pentatonic scale is also not following in the II - V7 chord progression typical of Western pop songs. Right from the get go the song goes into the I - V7 chord progression (Am - E7). This song can be considered as typical 'Chinese' music.

As such, my critique may be totally flawed as this song exemplifies the kind of music that is so very alien for me just like this example:

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I only remembered my guitar teacher once told me. Style is static, is somethin that is dead/obliged. Music is universal, it should be not restrict by how u play it or be restricted by the style it should be. In the end, it was the output that's matter. But anyway, I respect the fact that you preferred originality in music.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pencapchew wrote:
Well, I only remembered my guitar teacher once told me. Style is static, is somethin that is dead/obliged. Music is universal, it should be not restrict by how u play it or be restricted by the style it should be. In the end, it was the output that's matter. But anyway, I respect the fact that you preferred originality in music.

With all due respects to your teacher, what he is going on about is an ideal situation....a concept. You cant find perfection in an imperfect word or you may have a Sergei Rachmaninoff equally facile in Indian ragas, Chinese Opera and the Western piano. Even one with the stature of a Sergei Rachmaninoff can only concentrate on Classical music on the piano. So who are we mere mortals to talk about static styles, dead/obliged and universal music.

The greatest musical talents in the world normally adheres to 1 style. They are great cos they are delineated within the confines and rules of that style. If there were no styles, no rules, then the end result is noise.....not music.

I do not understand too much about originality nor do I care too much for it. What is original may be crap. If you look at musical performances from the standpoint of symphonic and orchestral events you will find that 99.9% of the material played is not original. Everyone is playing the works of the dead composers like Bach, Beethoven, Mozart etc. So where is the validity of all these 'unoriginal' performances. The validity lies in the interpretation. Over and beyond technical competence and excellence, the validity lies in the performers ability to express emotion, passion, soul etc. in his music. This expression is bound by the rules of that particular style for if there were no rules there would be no music.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

friedice wrote:
The greatest musical talents in the world normally adheres to 1 style. They are great cos they are delineated within the confines and rules of that style. If there were no styles, no rules, then the end result is noise.....not music.


My guitar teacher said that too, but he dun put it as in "style" but "genre". You can have alota style playin a guitar, but a "genre" is what determines your adherence/preference in music.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could be you are right, and we run the risk of using too many words and labels to describe something that is a non-verbal form of expression, music.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a very popular classic oldies about those gamblers.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 7:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tu te reconnaitras - anne marie david



Dans les rêves de l'enfance
Dans l'élève que le maître a puni
Dans la gare où commence
La première aventure de la vie
Dans celui qui doute
Dans celui qui croit

Tu verras
Tu te reconnaîtras
A chaque instant
Dans chaque joie
Dans chaque larme

Tu verras
Tu te reconnaîtras
Dans cet enfant
Parmi ces gens
Tous comme toi

Dans les rêves de l'artiste
Que la gloire n' a jamais couronné
Dans ce monde égoïste
Qui renie ce qu'il a adoré
Dans ceux qui ont peur
Dans ceux qui ont froid

Tu verras
Tu te reconnaîtras
A chaque instant
Dans chaque joie
Dans chaque larme

Tu verras
tu te reconnaîtras
Dans cet enfant
Parmi ces gens
Tous comme toi

Tu verras
Tu te reconnaîtras
Dans cet amour
Que j'ai pour toi
Oui tu verras
Tu te reconnaîtras


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In the dreams of childhood
In the pupil that the Master punished
In the station where the first adventure of the life
In that starts which doubts
In that which believes
You will see
You will recognize yourself
At every moment
In each joy
In each tear
You will see
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In this child
Among these people
All like you
In the dreams of the artist
That glory never crowned
In this egoistic world
Which disavows what it adored
In those which are afraid
In those which are cold
You will see
You will recognize yourself
At every moment
In each joy
In each tear
You will see
you will recognize yourself
In this child
Among these people
All like you
You will see
You will recognize yourself
In this love That I have for you
Oui you will see You will recognize myself
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 8:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Was rummaging through youtube, and not being able to read a single Chinese character, was simply clicking away when I stumbled on this gem! I may not know what the lady is singing but the music is really calming & soothing. Excellent lullaby to help tanti sleep!

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