Where to learn Qi Gong?

tcj13888 · PJNet Junior Joined: Jan 22, 2006 Posts: 535

Hello Guys and Girl out there!

Do you know where to learn Qi Gong the one part of chinese martial art in china? I hoping to learn it as to self defense and if anybody have information about it any way.

In KL any Qi Gong place to learn>...........

from: Tcj13888

friedice · Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 8:26 am Post subject:

QiGong is not so much for self defence or martial applications as it is for good health and longevity. I think you got it confused with NeiGung. QiGong works on the accumulation and circulation of chi in the body to bestow good health. NeiGung works on the body structure & rooting(it was said that GrandMaster Yip Man, Bruce Lee's teacher, could stand on 1 foot with a rope tied to it while 4-5 pl pulled on the rope and he could not be moved) and uses the accumulated chi for FaLi(explosive strength) or FaJing or what is known as Ging Lik in WingChun. These concepts of FaLi, FaJing and Ging Lik is different from sheer brute strength or force. This is what is meant by 'Internal Power'. As a person ages his physical strength deteriorates. He becomes weaker. So if you learn a 'hard' martial art you know you will become less and less effective with time. In the Internal arts, although your physical strength becomes weaker with aging, your internal strength (ging lik)as well as things like 'sensitivity' improves with time. In Karate & TaeKwonDo they practise hardening of the bodies weapons like feet and hands for breaking planks and bricks. The insensitivity to pain allows for prodigious feats of breaking. In the Internal arts this sort of practice is frowned upon as the emphasis is on developing 'sensitivity' which is why you have exercises like 'tui shou'(push hands) in TaiChi and 'chi sau'(sticky hands) in WingChun. All these are exercises to develop sensitivity. In TaiChi this is known as TingJing(listening to the Jing/ging) ie the ability to detect the incoming ging lik from your opponent.
It was said of Mas Oyama,(the founder of Kyokushinkai Karate-you can see the Korean movie, "Fighter in the Wind" which is based on his life) that towards the end of his life, would scream in pain if anyone even lightly touched his hands which had been seriously damaged through a lifetime of 'hardening' exercises. At his peak, Oyama who had the nickname 'God Hand', could break almost anything with his hand including live bull's horns.

Learn QiGong for good health and NeiGung for internal power in martial aplications.

In life, sometimes truth is stranger than fiction.

Very Happy

tcj13888 · PJNet Junior Joined: Jan 22, 2006 Posts: 535

Hello friedice!

Thanks for your information! Anyway where can I learn Nei Gung in Malaysia.
I am thinking of learning something for self-defense and Have you seen this movie call "shen hua". Act by Jackie Chan. Where the bad guy enter into the secrect place and inner cave. The Leading so call bad guy have a good martial act with simple movement .

Anyway What is the best self defense beside taewado and karate?

humanfly · Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 11:13 am Post subject:

first of all my question why you want to learn self defence ? to show off or for your health or to really self defence ?

to me i will learn tai chi for health...even you have taekwando or karate black belt also no use when ppl comes with a gun or knives..

tell you a story, my friend, a black belt in taekwando (represent Malaysia in major tournament) and also in the midst of learning muay thai. he was robbed by 2 ppl with knives. with his standard, he can easily defeat those robber, but he was thinking of his gf which was with him thus he gave in and handed what ever he has to the robber.

so u want to learn to fight off crime or to show off ??

tcj13888 · PJNet Junior Joined: Jan 22, 2006 Posts: 535

Dear Humanfly,

Surely is not showing off. Just that some friends like to bully me and disturb me and I am thinking is there a martial art can help me in health wise and self denfense.

I am a guy who is very soft type and quitt and when is the gathering!

humanfly · Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 11:42 am Post subject:

still thinking of self defence... Smile

if ppl bully you, just walk away from them lorr..or ignore them lorr

gathering..wait for the announcement lorrr

tcj13888 · PJNet Junior Joined: Jan 22, 2006 Posts: 535

Talk easy lah!.............I also wish lah! they come to me like monkey and jump jumping and hit your head..........walk away from them sure got.

but that nightmare still hunt me.

thinking of some martial art like jackie chan style

I am so boring and everyday study................I hope gathering works well and hope to be Mid-valley.

humanfly · Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 11:56 am Post subject:

maybe ur looks is easy to be bullied..how it was started anyway... Smile

tcj13888 · PJNet Junior Joined: Jan 22, 2006 Posts: 535

don't bully me at the gathering ok!............they just want to see my temper only!.............former secondary classmate........

they come in a group and make a fun and fool of you then hit at the back of your head..........very sad...

humanfly · Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 1:25 pm Post subject:

i just noticed that this thread is suitable to in the Mind and Health side...will move there

lxwong · PJNet Starter Joined: Sep 04, 2006 Posts: 107

Is this the Qigong you want to learn?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nu99GRUUN6Y

This video clip features Dr. Eisenberg (MD from Harvard medical school) and Bill Moyers from the documentary, 'In search of Chi'

Try and get hold of Dr Eisenberg's book, 'Encounters with Chi', an excellent read!

Smile

waiwai · Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 7:03 am Post subject:

tcj
i wud say go more exercise 1st before anything could happen, strenthen ur stamina & everything can do...
turn ur body shaping... Wink

so.. go gym lo.. hahahaaaaa

friedice · Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 11:15 am Post subject:

He is not interested in exercise for strength or stamina. He just wants to learn how to bash ppl up lar.
Laughing

waiwai · Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 2:26 pm Post subject:

but stamina & strenght r d basis to move further ler...
must learn how to walk b4 u can fly....
furthermore, u can learn the correct step to defend urself too.. quite worklah though nvr try..

friedice · Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 3:06 pm Post subject: