Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 1:50 pm Post subject: Calling the Attention of the Moderators - Yipck2003 posts
Dear Moderators,
I would like to call your attention to the postings of Yipck2003. In case you did not notice, all he does is attack the personality of the person making the post rather than replying to the topic on hand.
In the process, he pollutes the threads by always starting a fight with whoever disagrees with him by calling them names. Most of the time, he will twist the words of people in order to find faults in their argument or in order to fit his own opinion. Kindly do something about this member.
I am not only talking about his posts against me. I guess Yipck's recent postings in the Business and Investment thread prove this.
To the other members of this forum: If you feel the same way, kindly post here.
Agreed with you.
he is not everytime do so.. but i will said "most" of the time...
yet some of the post i do agree with his point of view.. its not totally wrong.. but some of the post are really show how childish he is.
I will give you a vote Juandiego _________________
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Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 9:31 pm Post subject:
Sorry, I don't believe in blocking or kicking people out of the forum just because they're speaking out. Unless their vocabulary are sort of limited to only cursings.
Apart from being egoistic, annoying, dumbfounded, kiasu, biased, ignorant and lacking of PFR skills...He's still considered an honest and straightforward guy to me.
Joined: Jun 14, 2007 Posts: 1543 Location: Catch me if you can! ;-)
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 4:49 pm Post subject:
To shut people up is not the best solution for we need to know their views for check and balance. What I've said may not be right and some people may not like it and likewise. I always believe in tolerance but if I am unable to do so, I'll ignore them. The name calling has to stopped, we are all adult (is it?) and please act like one... _________________ Goodbye my lover, goodbye my friend...
.....I always believe in tolerance but if I am unable to do so, I'll ignore them. The name calling has to stopped, we are all adult (is it?) and please act like one...
Exactly my sentiments! wise wise tanti.....like an owl! kekeke
pencapchew wrote:
Sorry, I don't believe in blocking or kicking people out of the forum just because they're speaking out. Unless their vocabulary are sort of limited to only cursings.
Apart from being egoistic, annoying, dumbfounded, kiasu, biased, ignorant and lacking of PFR skills...He's still considered an honest and straightforward guy to me.
I too believe in giving everyone a chance to speak out even if it is a dissenting opinion. I dont mind at all the limited vocabulary (figures of speech can get quite colorful and interesting! haha), cos not everyone is from an English medium school, but the cussing and name calling is a bummer. Its just bad vibes and unpleasantness for all other users not involved with the altercation. Yes pencapchew can be very shrewd & sound analytically. good good! hahaha
I just want to point out that I never advocated or asked that Yipck be kicked out or be given a gagged order. I just want the moderators to let him know that picking fights is not the proper behavior in any forum. I am part of many forums (fora) and Yipck's behavior is commonly called flaming, which is not allowed as it tends to cause postings to stray away from the topic on hand. I think another member (lovepark if I am not mistaken) already brought this up.
Ignoring a flamer does not work as I have seen in many forums, where the moderators take a harder stance on people like Yipck. Ignoring him only encourages him to post "flaming" posts that are off-topic most of the time.
I am all for freedom of speech. However, people have to realize that just like any other freedom, it comes with responsibilities.
I too believe in giving everyone a chance to speak out even if it is a dissenting opinion.
Yeah, right. This is from the very same person who chided me for posting my opinions that are "...frequently provocative and invariably contentious." This is from the very same person who called only my attention when I did the name calling and not Yipck's when he started it.
Joined: Sep 15, 2006 Posts: 1563 Location: PJ old town
Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 2:34 pm Post subject:
i dunno, seems to me, all u do is to gripe about how this forum itself was unfair to u and how some member doesn't play nice.
that to me, is pretty much a DNA of a sore loser.
sure that yipck2003 is pretty obnoxious at times and yet i find him honest with himself. that's a good thing i suppose.
about his flaming....yeah i got 'burned' (by him) before, that's no problem...i respect this forum too much to start a nonsensical mud-slinging. just freakin' ignore him and maybe...pray for him! remember to turn the other cheek
if he gets way, way, way, way out of line, i'm sure the mods will take stern action, right mods?
and yeah, btw, if u feel offended with this post (jeez, u don't respond well to provocation/brickbats, do u?)...my apologies... _________________ Niah-gong!!! That deserves a slap
yipck2003, I totally disagree with you. You can't simply make such a sweeping statement or quote 'Sex Maniac Malay'. It gives the wrong impression and perceptions to all. I have seen Sex maniac in other races as well. Don't generalise things.
very well said!
yipck2003 needs to be reprimanded. SLAP! SLAP!
one more racial remarks like this, i appeal to the admin to evict you from PJNET!
one of the example..
i got this from "girl from hongkong"...
check it out.... _________________
yipck2003, I totally disagree with you. You can't simply make such a sweeping statement or quote 'Sex Maniac Malay'. It gives the wrong impression and perceptions to all. I have seen Sex maniac in other races as well. Don't generalise things.
very well said!
yipck2003 needs to be reprimanded. SLAP! SLAP!
one more racial remarks like this, i appeal to the admin to evict you from PJNET!
one of the example..
i got this from "girl from hongkong"...
check it out.... _________________
some of yick2003's wise words,
what kind of image he is showing to the world, no doubt i am not a ori Pj-ian but i was proud to be one after years of staying here, but with this fella voicing out these word to the world to see.... oh PJ...... habis la...
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Btw, I say again. MALAYSIA is ALREADY a HELL, no need to ask anyone go to hell. We all know it is a hell. Unless your IQ is too HIGH until u don't understand a simple terms of HELL.
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I NO ONE ABLE TO RIDE YOUR WAVE. YOU JUST GET OUT OF HERE.
WE ARE MINDING OUR BUSINESS UNTIL YOU POST YOUR THING here, means that YOU MIND OUR BUSINESS, SO GO and MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS and DONT DISTURB Mine and OURS!!.
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Then don't drive in KL road. You are not fit to be in KL road. If you want to drive in KL, follow the KL Culture, even its ignorance. If you cannot follow the Culture, Like OUR BELOVE MP says "GET OUT OF MALAYSIA"... kekek quote from the MP...
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If any cars that want to stay there, THEY ARE IGNORANCE!! For such IGNORNANCE driver, I will definately Tailgate for few seconds, then overcut them from left (cos they jam the right lane).. and HIT breaks on them, then I speed off.
(I was hoping that car from their behind will bang them.. too bad, this has never happen yet.).
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Even if I speed over the limit, it is my problem because I am willing to pay the Fine.
_________________ We didn’t inherit the Earth from our parents. We are borrowing it from our children.
Are we here to take sides and vote 1 of them off? I say juandiego should go. I dont agree with alot of things yipck2003 says but he is certainly entitled to his views no matter how opinionated it may be. From the get go juandiego says the level of English on this forum is low such that he has difficulty understanding the meaning of the postings. Although he claims he is not contentious nor provocative, he can come up with topics like
'Are Malaysians bad drivers?' 'Are Malaysian men insensitive and unromantic?' 'For the Merdeka - what makes you proud of being a Malaysian?'
Here are some suggestions for unprovocative topics you may want to start in future:
Are Malaysian men generally stupid and incompetent? Are Malaysian women promiscuous and generally behave like whor....(oops better not use this word or it could be construed as too provocative)
juandiego wrote:
I am part of many forums (fora) and Yipck's behavior is commonly called flaming, which is not allowed....
As he claims to be on many forums and since he has difficulty understanding the postings here because of the poor English then we must ask what is he still hanging round here for?
Flaiming is frowned on and considered taboo on many forums and juandiego should know that what is even worse than flaming is trolling. And juandiego is definitely a troll. This issue of name calling between him and yipck2003 could have been resolved with a few PM's or emails or with either one of them having the common sense and grace to back down and so diffuse a situation that is obviously unpleasant to other users. In my opinion, yipck2003 has been gracious enough to let the matter rest with his silence on the matter. juandiego has no intentions of letting the matter rest as shown by his constant harping on this issue. And why should a 3rd party like lovepark who is not involved with the quarrel jump in the fray by offering to vote? Is this some sort of election? Now he is tryin to get the whole pjnet involved in his quarrel and his posting here on the feedback and suggestions forum is obviously meant to be divisive.
I therefore call on the Admin to review juandiego's posts and have him removed from this forum as he is just plain disruptive.
i dunno, seems to me, all u do is to gripe about how this forum itself was unfair to u and how some member doesn't play nice.
that to me, is pretty much a DNA of a sore loser.
sure that yipck2003 is pretty obnoxious at times and yet i find him honest with himself. that's a good thing i suppose.
about his flaming....yeah i got 'burned' (by him) before, that's no problem...i respect this forum too much to start a nonsensical mud-slinging. just freakin' ignore him and maybe...pray for him! remember to turn the other cheek
if he gets way, way, way, way out of line, i'm sure the mods will take stern action, right mods?
and yeah, btw, if u feel offended with this post (jeez, u don't respond well to provocation/brickbats, do u?)...my apologies...
I apologize if it seems that all I do is gripe. In case you have not noticed, I also posted "non-gripe" related comments. I recall that I only targetted a specific moderator for my complains of unfair treatment, not the entire forum. Just makes me wonder if it is a Malaysian trait to generalize and read between the lines when everything is already said in a straight-forward manner.
Btw, I would appreciate it if you can point out to me when I initiated non-sensical mudslinging. I admit to name calling when somebody calls me names but I don't recall initiating it. I even remember warning somebody who started calling me names that he does not want to start a word war with me.
Also, it would be nice if you can tell me what is way, way, way, way out of line. I just don't thrive well with ambiguity. To me, Yipck is already way out of line.
Btw, I would like to point out that I respond well to brickbats. In case, you did not notice, everytime somebody calls me names, I always have a stinging comeback. I think this is the reason my posts gets noticed more even if it is just a reaction to somebody who initiated the trolling/flaming e.g. Yipck's. I am sorry but I don't take shit from anybody.
Are we here to take sides and vote 1 of them off? I say juandiego should go. I dont agree with alot of things yipck2003 says but he is certainly entitled to his views no matter how opinionated it may be. From the get go juandiego says the level of English on this forum is low such that he has difficulty understanding the meaning of the postings. Although he claims he is not contentious nor provocative, he can come up with topics like
'Are Malaysians bad drivers?' 'Are Malaysian men insensitive and unromantic?' 'For the Merdeka - what makes you proud of being a Malaysian?'
Here are some suggestions for unprovocative topics you may want to start in future:
Are Malaysian men generally stupid and incompetent? Are Malaysian women promiscuous and generally behave like whor....(oops better not use this word or it could be construed as too provocative)
juandiego wrote:
I am part of many forums (fora) and Yipck's behavior is commonly called flaming, which is not allowed....
As he claims to be on many forums and since he has difficulty understanding the postings here because of the poor English then we must ask what is he still hanging round here for?
Flaiming is frowned on and considered taboo on many forums and juandiego should know that what is even worse than flaming is trolling. And juandiego is definitely a troll. This issue of name calling between him and yipck2003 could have been resolved with a few PM's or emails or with either one of them having the common sense and grace to back down and so diffuse a situation that is obviously unpleasant to other users. In my opinion, yipck2003 has been gracious enough to let the matter rest with his silence on the matter. juandiego has no intentions of letting the matter rest as shown by his constant harping on this issue. And why should a 3rd party like lovepark who is not involved with the quarrel jump in the fray by offering to vote? Is this some sort of election? Now he is tryin to get the whole pjnet involved in his quarrel and his posting here on the feedback and suggestions forum is obviously meant to be divisive.
I therefore call on the Admin to review juandiego's posts and have him removed from this forum as he is just plain disruptive.
Again, I want to point out that I never asked that anybody be kicked out or be asked to shut up. I hope people will read the posts carefully before making any comment. I think what lovepark means that she votes for me is that she agrees with what I said about yipck.
In case you did not read my entire original post, I said that my posts should be provocative and contentious, otherwise, what is the point of having a forum when everybody has to agree on everything? Therefore, I never claimed my posts are not contentious nor provocative. In fact, I admitted that they are. I suggest that you read things carefully before making a comment.
Regarding the topics you suggested, why don't you start them? They are your ideas anyway.
Btw, I got another topic in my head: Are all Malaysians conspiracy theorists? I have been labelled a cyberpolice for wanting to keep my identity private. Now, I am being accused of perpetrating division in this forum. Please read my post carefully: I am not asking anyone to take sides. I am asking the moderators to tell Yipck that his posts cannot be tolerated. I am also asking the other members to post their thoughts here if they agree to what I am saying.
I admit to calling names but I only do so when provoked. As to what is a worst violation between flaming and trolling I don't know. But I think anybody who does these two should be punished.
I am open to anybody reviewing my posts. Go ahead. But review yipck's posts as well. I think lovepark and volcanne already showcased the best of yipck's postings.
this is a public forum.. of cos everyone are welcome to post their point of view.
and this thread created are just calling attentions of the MOD.. not request admin to kick anyone out.
honestly, sometimes i do agree with yipck's post (while its make sense)
yet too bad.. most of the time out of 10posts.. 7-8posts are very very rude .. name calling, insult, annoyed and ego
yes.. as u all said.. he is being honest... being honest and respect are 2 different things _________________
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